This is were we are going wrong

Paladin, Your experience is a long way from mine.

Ive had a few dealings with the police, none positive:

One incident were I caught someone vandalizing my vehicle, overpowered him and phoned the police, 40 mins later they arrived and tried to do me for assault, despite fingerprint evidence on my wing mirror they only sent a forensics van down a week later when it had obviously worn off and the whole thing was dropped. I had to sort things out my own way with a late night visit to the vandal ....... No problems since.

A second incident when I had a perfectly legal knife that I kept in my van for cutting string and pruning confiscated at a road side pull over, this knife was particularly special as it had belonged to my departed grandfather. The whole thing wasted an hour of my time and nothing was wrong with my van.

Oh yes and and the time when an untaxed car, presumably broken down was left blocking the entrance to my drive, the police would not contact the owner as I live in a private road.

Another incident in one of the local roads that flash floods were a minibus had conked out right in the center causing chaos, despite the police arriving in a landrover discovery they would not pull it out the road and took objection when I did.

A local collision on a junction were the road was cleared but left coverd in diesel and the police did nothing despite me reporting it.

Having to waste a considerable amount of time disproving a malicious allegation of careless driving and suffer police question bordering on entrapment. Considerable photographic evidence collated by me proved that there was not a shred of evidence and I got an unofficial apology and the whole thing was thrown out by the CPS.

 

i can remember in my 20s my first hubby and me did a lot of business in local night clubs, video tapes etc and my hubby had a few drinks and i was completely sober as i was driving to the club and we left quite late and got stopped by a police van i got thrown in the back of the van, they assumed i had been drinking proved them wrong, i was all marked and i made a complaint and these young coppers got thrown out of local area to another area. we were certain we were set up.recieved a letter from police complaints apologising

 

As some of you know we are in the process of having to claim off of our house Insurance for the theft of our rotavator by those thieves from our allotment shed the other week.

We were talking Saturday morning to the pensioner on the next plot to us who lost his Mantis that he had only had brand new six weeks previously and he was saying that he had had a letter from the Police stating that no further invesigations were going to take place.In other words because of the type of people who stole all our stuff and the fact that the Police are frightened of those types we are all going to be the losers,because despite us claiming for a new rotavator we have to pay out £75 excess plus we now have to buy one of those lock thingies to cement into the ground plus a heavy duty chain that hopefully might put them off stealing the replacement rotavator.Mr Kandy was researching on the net and he reckons it will cost us about £100 to get the bits needed:(

What makes me laugh though is the fact that I have seen the Police and the same Community Support Officer who came to see us at the allotments running through the village with a speed gun in his hand and a Police car with lights flashing trying to stop a Motorist that was doing over the speed limit along that stretch of road so that they can get even more money out of us all.It really does make me angry

 

As a teenager and into my early 20s, I was also regularly stopped for no reason. It got to the point where as soon as a police car or van pulled up next to me and asked me where I was going and what my name and address was, I would reply "look mate, if you suspect me of something then arrest me, otherwise don't waste my time". They would then come out with some utter rubbish, which was always the same line.

The other day the wife took a call from her younger brother. She told me afterwards he'd been stopped for no reason. I said to her, let me guess, "there have been a number of burglaries round this area tonight". She was shocked, and said that was bang on what they'd said.

 

Two incidents-

Three years ago some kids broke into the community centre next door-at around 7pm summertime-so broad daylight, went on a rampage and started kicking our fence down which borders with the car park. My youngest daughter was playing in our garden at the time, so I had to control my temper and not react in the way I wanted to-she was 3yrs then-and I took her inside and phoned the police. TWO DAYS later I got a knock at the door about the phone call I made. I was disgusted so joined the residents association in the hope that I could do something constructive. If any of you have ever been in a residents association then you will know that you get a local councillor or two turn up and the community liason officer turn up. At the first meeting I attended he had the audacity to assert that no new crimes had been committed on property for the relevant period. He didn't even know about the incident-he couldn't even be bothered to get his facts straight-I had a crime number and a copy of the report-he looked a right berk and deservedly so!!


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Only the week before last, a bus driver was assaulted by a gang of kids on the very road I live on. I heard a commotion ( the usual asinine F-you's, and D-heads-you know the really intelligent stuff-those boys will go far!!) and then they ran off. The police arrived over an hour later. The station is about a 10min drive away!!!! This guy could have been killed and they couldn't be bothered. And instead of going to the hospital with his injuries, he had to stay with the bus-the police told him to.



Coincidentally enough, this very morning I get a ticket for speeding in a car I no longer own-sold it over three years ago!!!!Guess what they want??? Money.



The worst thing is that there will be good coppers, but who wants to be associated with this lot who are as much use as second hand loo roll. And these are the ones who are keeping our streets safe, what a joke!

 

I'm afraid that until modern police stop relying on speed cameras, CCTV and get out of their traffic cars and resume walking the beat, crime is not going to decrease. There is no substitute for a police presence on the streets and I don't mean the PCSOs that the government think are such a wonderful idea. Never understood that theory - they don't get paid much less than a regular PC, have to go through similar training but the extent of their powers is greatly diminished.

 

I don't think it is just the police that need sorting out. They are just one cog in the very faulty, seized up machine.

While the courts give insanely lenient sentences to violent criminals (eg that bloke that punched an innocent man in a supermarket and killed him), and while the word 'respect' has all but lost its meaning, and youths are demonised whether they've done anything wrong or not, just because a minority of youths have acted unacceptably, I can't see how things could get much better in terms of crime levels.

 

Agreed, no sense of personal responsibility. It was a thing drummed into me when I was a kid by my Dad-be considerate and aware of others. I can't pretend to have been an angel when I was younger-anything but, however everything I did hurt only myself-with the exception of giving my parents a few grey hairs. I was petrified of the police-my Mum would have been ashamed to death if I had (in her own words) "brought the police to my door!" And now it seems I was on the wrong side.