Thugs!

absolutely, Fran! a complete nightmare. I first came across it in Hemel - and I ahven's seen it north of the border, so maybe it's something I've left behind??? Hope so!

 

Its a rose, but definately not David Austen, I am just about to dig a border of his english roses out, they really do not like me!

rose not mine either, it came from a lady who lived opposite us (actualy a real Lady) she has just died and would be well over 100 now, a real gerden guru. the rose was one of a number of old variety shrubs I took whilst visiting her garden a couple of years ago - remind me about the peony.

As to weed -I get Oxalis, pet hate at the moment is lysimachia - creeping Jenny, I very foolishly brought it in from one of our other gardens and it has gone wild here and thats before I have even started on Ground elder!

 

It is a David Austin Rose innit Waco?

 

He did breed his shrub roses from old english variety so it would be in the pedigree some where..

 

They used to be called New English roses when I first started with them, and until our recent build I would have still had one of his first catalogues. 25 years ago when I used to teach opposite Gregories roses down in Nottingham (sorry not rabbiting on, just trying to date start of the Ausin old English thing). they were then described as having all the quality of the old english rose with the benefit of repeat flowering and that s why I fist bought them, and they were said to be a new invention or whatever breeders call it Sport I suppose.

Anyway Lady Foulton would have been in the house wehre these were taken from probably at least a good quarter of a century prior to this. so yes I am sure it would be in the pedigree, but this one did not repeat flower.

May be an interesting topic to see how anyone else has done with Austin roses I do ADORE them, but have hopelessly bad luck with them.

 

this is the full photo

You can see how neglected it was, spot 3 weeds - dead nettle, botril bush and stinging nettle, but still the leaves are green and healthy and the flower beautiful. where did all these plants go to?

 

Love it.............
Great rose,
Great picture,
Great Avetar.

 

I like to see the DAvid Austin roses - but my personal favourites are a bit more open than those - I particularly like Fountain, as a lovely deep red rose, with velvety petals, and a gorgeous citrusy scent - lovely! :D

 

re thugs - yes, lamium was a real thug down in Hemel - but I haven't been aware of it yet up here - I'll soon find out the local nuisances!

 

Just to clarify

this is not a David austen rose

 

Used to grow the 'old' English Roses many years ago mainly for the scent. Have not tried David Austin but since we are now on the sand beds of Bagshot I doubt I shall try roses again.

Has nobody any answer to ground elder apart from moving house?

 

dig deep!!

 

P.S. - roses grow on anything!! The HQ of the RNRS is on the most inhospitable soil around, in Herts - and they do fine there - roses aren't all that fragile!

 

Re ground elder - if its coming in from outside your garden the most you can do is try and keep it in check. Roundup works quite well applied 2-3 times in two weekly periods.

Me I let it get out of hand in one bed and could not get contol back. Having lost the war, removed as much as I could, then membraned and mulched around plants I could not lift. Plants I could will be replanted elsewhere after I am certain there is not one bit of root still in the soil. Planted things that could lived above the mulch like lavender and pinks.

 

Thank you for the info I started a new garden last year and I have filled it with David Austin Roses I just love roses it is a very tiny plot I chose Shrub roses for the front and climbers for the back, now the soil is not good here 2 miles from the sea very light and sandy but I have worked on it and am hoping for a good show at least the flaming caterpillers can't demolish them like they did with the Geraniums.
That rose of yours is a very vibrant colour is it scented?