time to stock up with bovril and firewood-mini ice age?

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  1. daitheplant

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    John, as far as I remember, we had 2ft to 3ft of frozen snow for abot 3 months,.:dbgrtmb:
     
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    For people like Daily Express journalists. I wonder why they are more panicky than the average Josephine Bloggs? Maybe total hysteria sells more newspapers?

    The weather is not getting colder - although we had some very cold temperatures last winter, but nothing worse that '47, '63 and the early 80s, some of which I can, erm, remember personally. The onset of last winter was lateish, and spring was early, prolonged and mild, followed by a mediocre summer but a very mild autumn. Whatever - we have to look at the totality of trends of a number of years, and a brief sample of our short lifetimes is not enough to be conclusive about which way the trends are going. Hard evidence suggests things are warming up, not cooling down, but maybe the Daily Express journalists all live in underground caves with no media or internet access and aren't aware of this.
     
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    Wales did get that. We plodded to school fighting our way through 4" snowdrifts. This was near St Davids, warmed by the Gulf Stream and one of the mildest parts of the country. Since those times there have been winters with barely a frost.

    There was a succession of winters in the 60s where we had significant snowfall. The schools did close - they had the problem of children being bussed in 10 miles or more on hilly country roads, they couldn't risk having them stranded at school or on the road all night so we were often sent home early. Tragic. We were forced to spend the time making giant snowballs and turning somersaults in the drifts.

    City schools often close nowadays if they can't get enough staff in to ensure safe coverage. If the schools are open it is common for the children to be kept inside at playtime for fear one of them will break a leg on a slippery playground resulting in a possible case against the school. Sad.
     
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    well, I hope that you are right

    Will the Oil Dispersant Corexit Create an Ice Age? « Theupliftingcrane's Blog

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    The entire ‘river of warm water’ that flows from the Caribbean to the edges of Western Europe is dying due to the Corexit that the Obama Administration allowed BP to use to hide the scale of the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Disaster.

    The approximately two million gallons of Corexit, plus several million gallons of other dispersants, have caused the over two hundred million gallons of crude oil, that has gushed for months from the BP wellhead and nearby sites, to mostly sink to the bottom of the ocean.

    This has helped to effectively hide much of the oil, with the hopes that BP can seriously reduce the mandated federal fines from the oil disaster. However, there is no current way to effectively ‘clean up’ the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, which is about half covered in crude oil.

    Additionally, the oil has flowed up the East Coast of America and into the North Atlantic Ocean, and there is no way to effectively clean up this ‘sea bottom oil’.
    There are several names to the themoregulation ‘river of warm water’ (“Gulf Stream”) that keeps the Northern Hemisphere from going into a new Ice Age. This entire system is one of the main global themoregulation processes that regulates the planet’s temperatures.
     
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    Not another daft Daily Express front page sensationalist storey.

    A couple of weeks ago their headlines informed readers that supermarkets would be reducing their prices by 30%. Whatever next?
     
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    So, we are talking about, maybe, 205 million gallons of oil and dispersants? Against how many BILLIONS of gallons of water in the Gulf Stream? This planet doesn`t just turn on it`s axis, it also turns, very slowly, on the elliptic. This affects the Gulf Stream, the North and South poles and even the planets magnetic field. All of which have an effect on the planets climate.:thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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    We HAVE to have a mini ice age. How else can we get everybody worked up into a frenzy about normal British winter?

    Winter became news a couple of years or so again when 'winter' was renamed 'The Big Freeze'. The first time we had The Big Freeze instead of 'winter', everybody got excited. By the second and third time we got 'The Big Freeze', people had got bored and were going about their business again.

    So, The Big Freeze has lost its edge. What can we have next, The Bigger Freeze? Doesn't sound that exciting. Its not something that people are going to talk about on their smoke breaks or in the canteen. The Grande Chill? Hmm, not sure.

    I know, how about 'The Mini Ice Age'? Excellent. It evokes images of pristine ice sheets and woolly mammoths. A time when men could be men, carrying spears and impressing women with their fire lighting skills. brilliant. That'll do. From this day forth, winter will now be known as The Mini Ice Age. Or at least for a couple of years til we all get bored of that.

    So I'm going to book a new name for winter 2012/13. That winter will be named "The Massive Dark Chill". Then I'm going for "The Season Of Doom", and then after that one, we'll have "The Quarter of Impending Death".

    After that, we might just have to call it "Winter" again for a few years just to let people soften up again so that the headlines don't lose their impact.
     
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      I definitely believe the weather just goes in cycles and has done for thousands of years; I'm 36 and I can remember when I was around 6-9 years old the winters were worse than what we've just had in recent years!!, 2 foot of snow that seemed to last for weeks and weeks, snow drifts that covered hedges. And you could guarentee snow by the beginning of November back then....

      By the time I was at secondry school (about 11-15 years old) you were lucky to see any snow at all in the winter nevermind in November, the winters were just 'messy' - mild and wet and they stayed like that for the best part of decade apart from the 'odd' cold spell. Now in the last 5 years the snow has returned and the temperatures have taken a plunge again giving winters that have for the majority been cold.

      I wouldn't be surprised if this winter 'is' worse than the last and even the next few are cold but then neither would I be surprised if mild wet winters returned after that....:thumb:
       
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      The Daily Express, who's responsible for suggesting there's going be be a Mini Ice Age in the link in the OP, can't even get the weather forecast right for the following week, let alone decades ahead!

      Where is all that snow they forecast for this week?


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      As far as I am aware, we are just coming OUT of an Ice Age?:thumbsup:
       
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