Tomato Growing 2024

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  1. Jess91

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    I don't have any actual tomatoes at all yet :frown: just foliage and flowers. I assume it's due to the cold weather in spring but can I do anything to boost them a bit or is it going to be a lost cause?
     
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      My plants are half the size in a normal year and only a few have flowers @Jess91 They are in the ground in beefed up soil in a polytunnel with green shading netting which we put on a month or more ago when we had 2 hot sunny days. Since then it's been mostly cool and grey till this weekend. I'm hoping warmth and extra sun will boost them.

      @Goldenlily26 Even here, where sunlight levels are stronger, we just use a green mesh net to shade our polytunnel so I think your blue sheet is too much.
       
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      • pete

        pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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        Plenty of time yet, and things have warmed up recently.
        If you have flowers things are moving.
         
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          To me it is the beauty of growing things is to see them move on each day. The seed that becomes that bow in the soil, then unfurls to a stem, then leaves x10 size of the original seed. It will produce toms, watch, wait and see.
           
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            @Fred Clarke it was a disaster then and that linked article is not quite the story.

            Aminopyralid contamination in manure was first detected by farmers, many hundreds of acres of potato crops were lost. The weedkiller manufacturer had to pay massive compensation.

            Whilst the farming community knew, compost was being sold to the general public with the weedkiller present and many gardeners lost their crops, but it took months to realise what was going on. A group was formed to lobby politicians and the various interest bodies, like DEFRA, soil association and others. We struggled to get publicity until gradually it became headline news in the national press, up to that point ordinary gardeners just thought they had lost their tomatoes and potatoes due to their own fault, weather conditions, under or over watering etc.

            I bought bags labelled 'organic' compost which did the damage to my veg patch. It was only when I got my MEP involved that things happened, no one else was interested not even the green party. Our MEP (good old Nigel F) got it immediately banned. This was against the interest of the grassland farmers as said weedkiller was the only effective treatment against thistles.

            So it was banned for a few years and under pressure was allowed again with lots of husbandry constraints. It seems a few farmers have relaxed over the years allowing livestock to graze too soon after spraying. The chemical does not break down in animal's digestive tracts nor does it break down in compost heaps, it can persist for years in a heap.
             
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            • JWK

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              @Jess91

              I'm at least three weeks behind an average year, so are most of my other veggies. This recent spell of good weather will soon spur yours into growth. I suggest start feeding now with a high potash fertiliser, tomorite or another brand. I water the stuff over the leaves as well as the roots once a week early in the morning, tomatoes respond well to foliar feeding in this way at this early stage of the season. Plus it's the fastest way to get the required nutrients into the plants to encourage flowers and fruit.

              Please follow the fertiliser label dosage rates.
               
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              • Fred Clarke

                Fred Clarke Life's too short for unnamed tomatoes.

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                "Aminopyralid contamination in manure ...I bought bags labelled 'organic".

                You're correct JKW. It seems that all it needs to be labelled 'Organic', is for it to have travelled through an animal's alimentary canal. And, on it's coming out the other end, it magically becomes organic. No thought about what is going in at the mouth end. Some of us can remember DDT - a 'forever-poison'.

                Just how do we eat organic?

                Probably best not to mention The Green Party, especially at this time. I admit, I thought they took over when Screaming Lord Sutch (of The Monster Raving Looney Party'), died.
                 
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                  I noticed that I've got a lot more flower, and fruit setting than I did last year, and that the plants recovered from their 'you've planted me in mainly manure so I'm going to turn yellow" much quicker this year...
                  I'm wondering if it's connected to having increased the wood ash in their mix...?
                   
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                  Several plants got scorched today, quite frustrating
                   
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                    I have fruit forming on all my tomatoes in the GH but they have been slower which I put down to the weather as have a similar situation with some other other veg
                    Plenty of others have found the same thing this year but if we get some decent weather, we still have 3 months - roughly speaking - for the fruits to mature and ripen.
                    It's a case of Fingers Crossed I think
                     
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                      Can Tomorite go off? just had some delivered (production date 02/24) and it has expanded the bottle, it's tight as a drum and practically barrel shaped!
                       
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                      Picked and ate the first three Sungold tomatoes this morning.
                       
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                      • JWK

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                        I wonder if it has been left in full sun? I guess it can go off, worth raising with the supplier and getting a replacement.
                         
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                        • pete

                          pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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                          Maybe its fermenting in the heat?
                           
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                          • Jess91

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                            Thanks @pete and @JWK that's really useful :)
                             
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