Tomato Growing Thread 2023

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  1. JWK

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    Not heard of that before @Alisa is it some commercial product, what does it do ?
     
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    "Trichoderma spp. significantly suppress the growth of plant pathogenic microorganisms and regulate the rate of plant growth. Recent works have shown that common plant disease such as root rot disease, damping off, wilt, fruit rot and other plant diseases can be controlled by Trichoderma spp" It's quite popular in Europe. I might introduce it in my greenhouse this year as nonchemical booster.
     
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      Well it sounds good but I'm still not clear where you get it from?
       
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      So far I see it being sold by dragonfli.co.uk here in UK. Will get closer to spring.
       
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        I'm unsure it will work for me, that website says it needs a soil pH of 4 to 8. I think mine is too alkaline.
         
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        In some ways it sounds like totally the opposite to the microhizza fungi.

        I doubt that the two would work together.

        John, is your soil ph higher than 8.:yikes:
         
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          Hmm I'm not sure pete, it's solid chalk just a few inches down.
           
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            Had a quick look and found the following trichoderma species form a "mutualistic endophytic (live within the plant for part of there life) relationship" with plants, so not dissimilar to some mycorrhizal fungi.
            I'll stick with the mycorrihiza at the moment as I plant the tomatoes into clean compost and fresh soil.
             
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              For sauces I am definitely going with:

              Opalka
              Jersey Devil
              Amish Paste

              And for new ones possibly Orange Banana (as they are supposedly high yielding) and Moskvich (as they are early-ish, I think)

              Any other sauce recommendations would be appreciated - esp early ones.

              Also going to with

              Sungold
              Purple Ukraine
              And maybe Steak Sandwich

              (Will probably do far more than this though!)
               
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                IMG_20230122_084324.jpg Geriatric seed going into the airing cupboard. I only got one plant from the 2007 batch last year so I've chucked in plenty this time.
                 
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                    There's me hoping to go ahead this year with mycchoriza and now someone put in, "make sure you get the right one for tomatoes"!!! I was just going to add some to ALL my seed sowing and potting composts???
                    The trichoderma fungi also sounds interesting. Various spots in the garden are proving unproductive even AFTER I've removed soil. Must be said that where to put this soil has proved problematical. To begin with I simply practised 'species control' and planted elsewhere but the greenhouse soil took lots of wheelbarrow-fulls!! Thought I'd cracked it but that was when theWhitefly found me and they were far worse than any root fungi!!! So for some years I've only grown in fresh-bought compost in pots or pots in the soil outdoors. BUT suddenly its the soil next to trellis where I've grown runner beans!! pH controlled and soil changed (grew some stonking Kelsae onions there last year, though they wouldn't climb!) Grew the runners in a big pot but, guess what, the bloody whitefly got them!!! Even the 'special' spray didn't control them! Yes I'm aware of the biological control which I've used with some success 'til we had a cold spring and that got my little wasps!!!
                    Back to the soil fungi! How susceptible are they to pH? This can be controlled in small areas but perhaps not whole plots??? What do you think??
                     
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                      I won't bother with any Mycchorizal this season.
                       
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                        I'll use mychorizal just sprinkled in the bottom of each planting hole. I still have half a packet from last year.
                         
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                        Does the packet give a use by date or any indication of shelf life? I believe its a live culture, like yeast and may not survive once opened.
                         
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