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    On the subject of the Beatles

    In 1963 I bought my young wife the Beatles first album, "Please, Please Me." It was a third pressing. A mono version. An example of which in mint condition, is supposedly worth £150.
    Although I'd suggest, few records that are fifty-five years old, are "mint."

    She only played it a few times and was not impressed, it's not been played since. We have no other Beatles records, (I'm not a fan), not even in either of my vinyl jukeboxes which have examples of many other singers and groups from that era.

    According to this site,

    PLEASE PLEASE ME - Beatles Collecting Guide

    It says.

    "On a rare version of this pressing, it appears a 33+1/3 on label."


    That's on ours.

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      I know nowt about the list. However I well remember as a cop, having to provide motor-cade escorts for ones such as the Beatles. Personally much of the pop era music....yuck. OK some songs/tunes became classics compared to much of todays stuff. Some of the Beatles music sounds good when orchestrated.
      The early 60's was very much made up of ballards. Boy tells his girl, how much he loves her etc. I think that most of us, irrespective of age or sex. There seems to be this something that grabs our attention. Perhaps we liked a particular song, so when the artist brings out another, we automatically buy it and so the trend continues. Likewise with books. We read a good book and become hooked on that author. Then of course the car. A guy has always bought Fords. The last five Fords, to him have been C*** compared to the former models. Yet he still buys Fords.

      Nowt so strange as folk.
       
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        You're right there! :whistle:
         
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          When I was selling juke box records in the late 1950's the majority of them were ballads, pop and rock in 45 rpm format but we still sold a few classical 78 rpm. By the time the Beatles became popular they changed things to much more live concerts/performances which had a big effect on the juke box record market. The 45's bought for use at home then became more popular and there's no doubt that the Beatles changed things considerably. Some of their music was excellent and a lot of their performances were dire - until their management worked out the right formula.

          A lot of people say that the pop music of the 50's and 60's was much better than today. although I'm not keen on much of the modern stuff I think that there was a considerable amount of rubbish pop as well, in those days. What is remembered is the good stuff that has survived.

          I still prefer my collection of records from the 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's :thumbsup: :noidea: :old:
           
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          I've always said, I'll listen to anything pop song that has a good tune and is sung well. I didn't think any of the Beatles sang well.
          Favourites of the fifties, were Buddy Holly, The Everly Brothers and many other American singers and groups. The Brits of that era were just copyists, as were the Beatles in their early years and didn't appeal to me. I was also into "trad jazz." At the age of fifteen, I took a girlfriend to see Chris Barber when Lonnie Donegan was still playing banjo in his band. From the age of seventeen when I became "mobilised," having bought my first car, it was the jazz club at the Eel Pie Island Hotel every Saturday night. But I became progressively interested in modern jazz. At twenty, my future wife and I moved into a flat in Soho. We were already members of Ronnie Scott's first club and spent a lot of week-day evenings there as it was free for members and warmer than our flat. In the early sixties I got into Motown.
          But my interest in modern jazz has endured. It's timeless. It forms a major part of my vynil album, CD and mp3 collection.

          This is from an album I bought in 1959. For me it sounds as fresh now as it did back then.

           
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            Good morning I just love the Beatles as the music leaves yours truly with many happy times and memories for me and I still have all their records,walking down the Kings Road and Carnaby street etc ,those were the days my friends:smile:
             
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              The BBC made a TV documentary years ago about The Cavern, concentrating mostly on The Beatles. The numpty presenter, pointed out the name of artists who had appeared there inscribed on purposely added cladded bricks on the outside.
              He made a point of indicating the one dedicated to Tubby Hayes, saying "Who ever heard of him?" as if he were a five minute wonder decades ago.

              The Cavern wasn't all about the Beatles at one time.




               
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                I was never sure about whether you could classify David Whitfield as a copyist. His first No.1 hit over here was in 1953 with 'Answer Me' followed in 1954 with a No.1 with 'Cara Mia' also topped the charts in the U.S. at the same time.

                Then there was Dickie Valentine with a number of top ten hits in the mid 50s. Joan Regan was also popular at that time although most of her songs were covers. She also had hits with the Squadronaires. Alma Cogan had lots of hits in the 50s and was the highest paid female artist. Ronnie Hilton also had a lot of hits but they were all U.S. covers.

                What we tend to consider as pop didn't really come in until the mid 50's around the time Elvis brought out Heartbreak Hotel and Hound dog. It was around that time that Lonnie Donnegan and Tommy Steele became popular as we gradually had home grown singers coming along. Even Max Bygraves and Peter Sellers were getting in on the act :hate-shocked:.

                Then, by 1959, we had Cliff Richard and the Drifters (before The Shadows), Marty Wilde, Craig Douglas, Emile Ford (who also designed a new style of guitar equipment), Adam Faith, Anthony Newley (anyone remember his film 'Idol On Parade'?), Bert Weedon, the sadly short career of the great Billy Fury, Helen Shapiro, and by 1960 we had over 60 of the top 100 hits for the year.
                 
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                  Quite a list of 50's stars @shiney :blue thumb: I can just about remember most of them . In fact a few weeks back there was a Morecambe and Wise documentary, Dicky Valentine was in one of the sketches. I always wondered what happen to him .I found out that ,sadly ,he died in a car accident in 1971.
                   
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                    Answer Me was written by a couple of Germans in 1952.
                    Both David Whitfield and Frankie Laine recorded it in 1953

                    Frankie Laine's version was No 1 in the States for 8 weeks
                    I'm not sure if it was released in the UK. I think that applies to a lot of recordings, many record companies were multilateral. So I guess it was "horses for courses."


                    I didn't like either.

                    Frankie Laine was the big star in the mid fifties, "I Believe" was No1 for 18 weeks in 1953 in the States.
                    He had three No1s in the USA in 1953.

                    Dickie Valentine recorded a lot of songs also recorded by other artists.

                    I looked up his hits.

                    Mr Sandman was recorded in the USA by the Chordettes, the Four Aces, Buddy Morrow, Vaughn Monroe, Les Elgart, the Lancers, and the Song Singers.

                    I've even got a track of it on a CD by the Ray Ellington Quartet.

                    A Blossom Fell was a huge hit for Nat King Cole, here in 1955. taking over from Dickie Valentine's and reaching No3.
                    Of course before the 60s there was only the BBC, Radio Luxembourg and if you could get it AFN playing records. The BBC favoured home grown products.
                     
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                      Hey! Many great name there. When my first daughter was born in hospital, I shoved in a request on the hospital radio thingy. Sitting beside Val's bed. We listened in. Suddenly our names were mentioned and. Here is. Nat King Cole singing. When I fall in love. At Val's funeral I had that same song played. Oh dear here we go again. The old eyes are raining again.

                      With music, we often refer to the golden oldies. Oh for the sound of the big bands. Glenn Miller and Tommy Sorsey etc.


                      Play it again Sam. Turn the volume up.
                       
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                        It was, and got to No.1 in 1953 here as well.

                        I don't remember him actually getting to No.1 (Billboard Charts) over there in '53 but did get three No.1s here in '53. They were 'I Believe', 'Hey Joe' and 'Answer Me'. I seem to remember that he got a No.2 that year but can't remember what it was. He first hit our charts in the early 50's with High Noon and Sugarbush but also had earlier hits with songs such as Jezebel. Hollywood brought him lots of fame for singing the title songs of Westerns.

                        I remember a lot of them as I was friends with them. I missed out the 'one hit wonder' of Laurie London who had a big hit in '57 with "He's Got the Whole World in His Hands" (and it was the most successful record by a British artist in the U.S. in the 50's). He and Helen Shapiro were fairly good friends of mine and most of the others were 'Acquaintances'.

                        Helen and Craig Douglas starred in the film "It's Trad, Dad!" with lots of other well known artists - some of you will remember them :thumbsup:
                        Helen Shapiro
                        Craig Douglas
                        John Leyton
                        The Brook Brothers
                        Chubby Checker
                        Del Shannon
                        Gary U.S. Bonds (as Gary (U.S.) Bonds)
                        Gene Vincent
                        Gene McDaniels
                        The Paris Sisters (as Paris Sisters)
                        The Dukes of Dixieland (as Dukes of Dixieland)
                        Chris Barber's Jazz Band with Ottilie Patterson
                        Acker Bilk and His Paramount Jazz Band
                        Kenny Ball and his Jazzmen (as Kenny Ball's Jazzmen)
                        Bob Wallis and his Storyville Jazzmen
                        Terry Lightfoot and his New Orleans Jazz Band
                        The Temperance Seven
                        Sounds Incorporated (as Sounds Inc.)
                        David Jacobs
                        Pete Murray
                        Alan Freeman
                        Felix Felton as Mayor
                        Arthur Mullard as Police Chief
                        Deryck Guyler as Narrator
                         
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                          All them in one film ! Including Sounds Inc. a superb instrumental band who backed a lot of American R and B stars on tour.
                           
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