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  1. Mossiac

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    I too thought that was the purpose of the government.

    When I vote it always feels like I'm picking the party with the least bad points. As it has already been said, they promise the right things but nothing happens when they are in power.

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    If only 1% of the people who *think* they could/would do a better job would stand for Government (and then deliver!) we would be overwhelmed with choices ;)
     
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      That is true. But on the other hand it would be nice to have a government that isn't corrupted. But I doubt that will happen in my lifetime.

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      I'd do it, with the support of a select few. Except I couldn't. Not because I don't think I've got the necessary skills, but simply, I don't have access to the money.

      Because of the undemocratic way our 'democracy' works in the UK, the political parties that have any chance of winning are the ones with the backing of rich people/organisations.

      Lets say that I and a dozen others formed a political party, and between us we had rock solid policies, backed up by the necessary planning to implement those policies fairly and effectively. Lets say that those policies would even be very popular. So what then needs to be done to make my party win a general election? Well, first I'd have to place a representative in at least 51% of the wards in the UK. That's because to win a general election, you need to win at least 51% of the seats, a seat is a ward, so you need to win 51% of the wards. There are about 9500 wards in the UK, so I'd need to put a representative in nearly 5000 wards. That's the minimum. That would be based on the assumption that my party would win in EVERY ward where my party was represented. Realistically I'd need more, as it would be inevitable that I'd lose in some wards no matter how popular my policies were.

      So, if my policies were so popular, surely I'd have little difficulty finding 5000 or more people to represent me? Well, maybe not, but I'd need to get to all those people to convince them. That's effectively marketing, and that costs a lot of money.

      But lets gloss over that. Lets say I have the popular party with popular policies and everyone knows about it. All that remains is to register my candidates in each of the wards. That costs, if I remember right, about £600 per candidate. Multiple that by my minimum of 5000 candidates just to stand a theoretical chance, and that costs £3 Million.

      So, I don't think its that everyone says they can do it but few really can because of policies, I think its much more that unfair red tape built in favour of rich people and corporations and not the 'common man' makes it totally impossible to even try.
       
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        Do you mean the Lib Dems or UKIP?
         
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