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  1. shiney

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    Tony 'blinking' who???? :heehee:
     
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      Never 'erd of him.

      For a bit I was thinking TB that well know loud mouth who settled all the wars in the Middle East.

      Oh yeah, I think he started some as well.
       
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        What does Tuberculosis have to do with this? I'm getting confused. :scratch:
         
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          Tony Blair, very apt initials for a nasty disease.:biggrin:
           
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            Going off- off- topic here, but it's a nice story.

            In 1998 I was gathering mountains of documentation to apply for a visa to study in a country with rather peculiar bureaucracy. One of the required documents was a recent certificate that I don't have Tuberculosis.

            Well, we did have those certifications in Finland until they were stopped in early 1960s as redundant, thanks to the vaccine program that eradicated the disease. I went to see my GP and we scratched our heads, trying to find a suitable looking form.

            In the end the doctor listened to my lungs and filled in the most official looking form she could find, and after some thinking, hunted around in neighbouring cubicles to find any stamps and ink pads anyone might have kept as mementos.

            So my TB certificate was decorated with stamps varying from proper doctors' ones to old library date stamps, "employee of the month", "retiring today yippee" and the rest. We decided that the heart and flower ones wouldn't add to the officialdom so skipped them.

            The document was accepted without a blink.

            Sorry, back to the topic now! :redface:
             
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              If I remember correctly TB was pretty much wiped out in the UK for a period of time due to screening and vaccination, but, not sure of the time scale or when exactly, there was a pretty big resurgence in the disease brought into the county by people from the third world.
              I seem to remember them saying at the time it was an antibiotic resistant strain and was just yet another health scare that was in the news at the time.

              We have found better and much more effective ways of scaring the S**t out of the population since.;)
               
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                Sanctions maybe not as effective as we'd like - Russian imports have plunged on the back of the Ukraine War — but revenue from its oil and gas exports has more than made up for it
                 
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                  I heard that the money the EU is giving Ukraine in weapons and aid is only one-thirtieth of what they have paid for Russian oil, in the same period.
                   
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                    It wouldn't surprise me if our inflation rate was similar.
                     
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                      Tbh,with all the years we have had with low inflation its never done me any good.
                      Interest rates have been stupidly low for years now.
                       
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                        Yep. With inflation and all that - let's hope that the BoE don't bang up rates too high. I'm not sure how much leeway people have in their budgets now-a-days.

                        Boris - make sure that the 120 armoured vehicles we're posting to Ukraine are stuffed full of hardcore military weaponry.
                         
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                          How's all this stuff getting to site? I always expect Russia to shoot down any aircraft or sink shipping delivering hardware :dunno:
                           
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                          Probably send it to Poland, apparently we were supplying Poland with some tanks to make up for the ones Poland have sent to Ukraine.​
                           
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                            I think it comes by land over the Polish Ukraine border.
                             
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                              I reckon that for the more heavy kit - tanks, aircraft, artillery - the Ukrainian military drive it over the border. I have no doubt that much more sophisticated weaponry is going over there - but no one is letting on.

                              In terms of lighter kit - such as NLAWs - they are apparently left in a pile behind some bushes - and the Ukrainian military are told where they are. I'm not making this up.

                              Boris has said that he will relax import tariffs for Ukrainian goods - to help the economy recover.

                              Ukraine will win this war.
                               
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