Wanna take a short questionnaire?

Hey everyone!

In order to fuel the gender and language conversation a bit, and to have your opinion on the elements I am currently investigating for my paper, there are a few points I would like to ask you about...

What do you think of women and swearing? Do you think that a woman swearing is as acceptable as a man swearing? Do you believe that there are certain words that women should avoid, but which are acceptable from men, or the reverse? Do you have the feeling that in your everyday lives, women are more stigmatized than men if they swear?

This makes a lot of questions I know! To try not to influence the answers, I will give you my results, and what I may suggest once the discussion is engaged.

Thank you.

 

By the way, shiney, you cannot imagine how lucky you are not having to sleep at least 6 hours a day to be productive, I would pay to be like you!!! ; )

 

I'm getting deja vu here. Is it just me?
Jenny namaste

 

Actually, this time I above all wanted to insist on the perception aspect of profanity and gender... We talked about the fact that women may be swearing more nowadays than before, but not about the impact this has on people's perception of women. In other words, is a woman who swears less feminine? Generally speaking, would you react as strongly when hearing a woman say the F-word, as you would when hearing a man say the same word for example?

Does it make more sense now?

 

Well I am sixtyfive in fifteen minutes time
I too was raised in polite company and indeed never swore, or really came across it
Infact swearing changed my life,
How I will never know, but it did
How, well I left school at 15, I was guaranteed an appretiship as an Electrician, but I had to be seen to do the formalities
So I turned up at 09.00 at the company, and several workers sat drinking tea
said What the F are you here for, I turned around and ran home, never did get the apprentiship
I left school on the Friday and started work on the Monday as a supposed trainee buyer in a Department store, £3 a week
I spent one year learning hardware Ironmongery, then one year Shoes, and eight months mens made to measure suits
By this time I was on £4-7s-6p a week, and I was offered a job in John Browns ship building yard as a trainee fitter and turner £12-10s a week, no contest a mans job and big money, I had also joined the Royal Naval Reserve
After six months and competent I was then given Night shift four nights a week no weekend work and current rate £19 a week, Wow I had a made to measure suit from Burtons every six weeks paid for cash,and was in a band 1964 and all that
In the ship yards I learned to swear, and strong
Swearing was every second word, but only at work, Never at home, out at night or in Ladies company
Then I joined the Royal Navy, again swearing every second word, and ashore with my oppo's unless a Lady was present, then not one sailor swore, and this was through my whole 22 Years service
Back in Civvy Street, very little swearing in the work place, as a Network Engineer, none at home or socially
Later as needs must I had to take work, in an office
An office with 600 Ladies as an office worker, not IT About 200 Guys
The Guys did not swear, but OMG the ladies, not only the swearing of the highest order words, but the details given of the previous night out Shocked me totally,(Only at this time we had moved on 40 years)
Even guys with other guys did not discuss what in great detail the latest score did or did not
These ladies prim and proper Civil Serpents (only the under 35's though) OMG

I off course knew as a 22 year Submariner of all sexual matters, but never met or knew anyone who described them in great detail until this, not a flinch or a blush, just speaking as normally they would AND telling ME! (It was not a wind up it was a daily occurance)

I can not even hint at what they said other than take what you will from above, but 22 years a Sailor and SHOCKED
(I only wish I had known when I was eighteen and fit what I know NOW) :-)

Jack McHammocklashing

 

Your tale makes fine reading. As a member of tthe feamale gender, I feel uncomfortable and sad about it. I too was a Civil Servant from 1972 to 1993 but did not hear colleagues of either sex swearing. I was in Accounts Division in the Property Services Agency and unlike The Child Support Agency who mopped us all up when PSA was dissoled, we played the rules by the book mainly. Not so CSA! It was quite a shocking transition and like you, that was when I saw more of the "real" working environment with more sassy women than I had ever encountered before. Was it location (down south) or Government department I wonder?

 

I agree with you two in the sense that I too have the feeling that women from my generation (18-25) are a lot more comfortable with swearing, and also with sexuality than men.

That is exactly what happens here in France too with people of roughly my age. Guys can talk about sexuality, but this will always be general aspects of it, whereas women talk about details I too could be embarrassed to tell...

The point is that women love to talk about it, and could reject and call prude a woman who would not feel comfortable talking this way and sharing such details. I really have the feeling that this kind of talk is becoming a bonding factor among women, as it could have been the case with men (even if not to such an extent...) a few generations ago.

Maybe this is a way for nowadays, more "emancipated" women, to claim "hey look, our everyday talk is more crude than men's, the way we speak is not restrained anymore, we now have the upper hand...". Another point worth investigating...

 

:hpybtd:

 

Oops, I wanted to wish you a happy birthday earlier, but forgot it while thinking and writing about the discussion so... HAPPY BIRTHDAY Jack!!! ^^

 

i swear a lot some people dont mind some people hate it i know worse words then F Thow!!!!!

Starvation WAR Murder Rape Pervert Pedo File

So For Me Im Only Speaking For My Self Here

i FIND IT IMPOSSABULL TO TAKE OFFENCE AT SWEAR WORDS

I DO NOT DO IT IN FRONT OF CHILDREN AND DONT DO IT ON THIS FORUM

After Doing Stand up in pubs n clubs for years it just become the norm PART OF THE ACT Iv Had Women & Men in Stitches

Iv also had Men & Women leave the Club or Pub

if there was 2/300 in the room i allways found it made another 2/4 seats empty for the standing 1s and as long as i got my Fee

i went home every night HAPPY

i Miss it But the Smoking Ban killed the trade

 

I hope this is now clearer... Is it?

Thank you.[/quote]

I Married a Well Heald Posh Un

They Love A Roughf Un

 

Though what years are you refering to Shiney
I am talking 2012
Sex it is not just I met a guy last night and we hit it off I stayed the night with him

It was down to the most intimate detail, through out the whole event, That as a 22 year submariner I could not believe I was hearing, even among guys on the messdeck it was not like this, it was not just overheard it was talking directly to me a male, NOT a one off wind up, it was regular from not one but many

Jack McH