WHAT JOBS ARE WE DOING IN THE GARDEN TODAY - 2017

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    Weve got a klargester which is a bit like a soakaway/septic tank and it has been a nightmare. We are thinking a cess pit would be better but again costs alot of money but might be cheaper than fonsistent maintenance of a klargester.
     
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    @luciusmaximus We don't have anything quite as posh as a septic tank :snork: We just have a cesspool.

    The difference is that in a septic tank the solids eventually dissolve and go through the soakaway whereas a cesspool is just an underground tank where the solids don't dissolve and the liquids go through the soakaway, and the tank needs pumping out when full.

    We've had a number of problems over the 45 years we've been here. These have varied but are generally related to either the pipes to the soakaway not working properly, or not working at all, to the soakaway needing to be replaced.

    The first time we had a serious problem was that the clay drainage pipes that go to the soakaway had infiltrated by tree roots and damaged. This resulted in needing new pipes laid between the tank and the soakaway (had new land drains run from the soakaway onwards as the men were here). In those days this was covered by our home insurance so they arranged all the work. Instead of putting in new clay pipes they gave us the 'new and improved' version which were made of compressed bitumen.

    The next time was ten years later when everything packed up and, after investigation, it was found that the bitumen pipes had disintegrated. By then insurance companies had excluded any damage to drains unless there was also damage to the house (this usually only happens with subsidence or heave). I still claimed on the insurance saying that they had installed inferior pipes the previous time whilst claiming they were new and improved. They denied any knowledge of that claim until I sent them a copy of their letter. They still refused to do anything on the grounds that, at the time, it was thought that they were better. I told them that I was prepared to take them to court (a hobby of mine is fighting big companies and authorities in court :heehee:) but it turned out I didn't need to as the company that Mrs Shiney worked for held the mortgage on nearly a thousand homes that were all insured by them and told them to get it fixed - or else!

    The last time we had problems was when the soakaway itself stopped working properly. It turned out cheaper to put in a new soakaway in a different part of the garden than to try and fix the problem :dunno:. The new soakaway is not as efficient as the old one but it work. Part of the drop in efficiency is the change in the climate where the heavier, and longer, downpours that we nowadays saturates the ground so much that the soakaway can't work properly until the ground dries out a bit. This results in the water backing up and not allowing any solids to run to the tank. All it means is that we now have the tank emptied twice a year instead of once. The cost of emptying, currently, is £110 - but we don't pay sewage rates so it's not too bad.

    Whoops! :) You just added your last post whilst I was typing this.

    Is your tank capable of being emptied like a cesspool can be? Our cesspool is just a cylindrical metal tank under the surface.
     
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      Today, I ave been mostly sieving compost :) DSCI0001 (8).JPG
       
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        Finished sieving and turned over last years heap :phew: :thud:

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        Time for drinkin, smokin and lobbin bottles now :Wino:
         
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          Had lunch in the garden and sat drinking in the hot tub for the rest of the afternoon :Wino::snork:

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            :hate-shocked::hate-shocked:. Sounds as if you have had a bit of a nightmare Shiney with your cesspool. I think we have a Septic tank, a brick built chamber with an overflow and clay pipe leading to a soakaway ditch. Tank was emptied in January at a cost of £160. Guy who emptied it said we left it too long to empty and waste had seeped into overflow:yikes:. We had been checking the tank level and thought it was ok. He did say tank was working ok, not blocked and that the best thing we could do would be to add a dead sheep or dead dog to the tank :yikes::yikes::yikes::loll:.

            More digging today uncovered 4 clay pipes, which we traced back to being waste from toilets, household water and two rainwater pipes. All water pipes appear to be working correctly but not sure about waste pipe. A hosepipe placed into the overflow runs through the overflow/ pipe and empties into ditch, but we did not see any water seeping out of the septic tank into the overflow. Doesn't mean its not working though as don't know how frequently water from the tank drains. We looked into the tank and I was surprised the water level was so high. There was also waste floating on the top :hate-shocked::biggrin:. Only the waste goes into tank, the other water is carried straight to soakaway ditch.The level in the tank is above the overflow pipe, so I'm not sure what that means. I understood that the waste falls to the bottom of the tank and gradually pushes water level up to reach the overflow pipe. As the level is now above that and contains floating waste I'm concerned that waste is getting into the overflow again.

            I read online about Soakaway Worms and I'm thinking about trying these. They come with a bag of fertilizer ( which does the same job as the sheep or dog ). Have you tried them by any chance??
             
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              Probably repeated a million times across the UK today but done nothing today, ..................apart from dusted off the patio table and chairs, cleaned the barbq, Mrs Intel cut the grass whilst I supervised, finally sat down at about 2pm, had some dips and then cooked chicken marinated in Nando's lemon and herb, all washed down with beer and some wine perfect afternoon with the family :Wino:lovely weather in Kent today got to about 25.c

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                Planted 8 of geum mrs bradshaw and 12 armeria that id grown from plugs in october. Gave all recent additions to the border a watering as well as the lotty. Been round and tidied up spent hyacinths and daffs. Also collected some rhubarb and spring onions. Ordered more plants online with an unexpected belated birthday present! :snorky:
                 
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                  Beheaded a trillion sycamore seedlings under the tree and beyond where my hens used to reside,covered with weed suppressent while i work out which plants and shrubs will make it a nice seating and BBQ area in the evening sun :)
                   
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                    Now this sounded like my ideal evening zig until....
                    I read snorkys post :heehee: xx
                     
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                      Spent 5 hours in garden. Put two coats of paint on a section of the wall separating back and side gardens and two coats on capping stones along entire length of wall as they looked a bit ratty. Set up the mini pond. Potted up a small Hibiscus I bought few weeks back ( its meant to go into the ground but nowhere to put it at present ). Started shovelling more black, stinky gloop and then stopped as realised its a pointless exercise. Wondering what a chemical analysis would reveal :loll: :heehee:.
                       
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                        Planted loads of pots of spent bulbs in the border outside the garden wall and planted out 12 aquilegia, 4 dornicium that had been in my cold frame. Got my fiskars xact weeding tool out and removed loads of weeds from the grassy areas around the outside of our garden. 12 alchemilla mollis and 6 Echinacea plugs arrived so potted them up to grow bigger. Fed all rhodos/azalea and skimmia with rhodo plant feed.
                         
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                          Just spent the morning working on digging out my second veg bed. I have now removed about 2 cubic metres of sand (which passes as soil in that part of the garden). Today's effort was moving 12 40l trugs full of "soil" out of the hole, and putting 8 sacks of fairly young horse-manure in the bottom, covering the first square metre with about 30cm of manure. Then topped off with some compost/soil mix, that I had been growing my soft fruit in. The plan I should to clear another cubic metre of sand, and then build my veg bed "sandwich".
                          30 cm of horse-manure, 10-15 cm compost/soil mix, one compost bay of semi-rotted compost (will be about 30cm deep, I reckon), then topped with the contents of the fully rotted compost bay (about 20cm deep). I will need to return to the local stables and get a lot more horse-manure though!
                          I hope to get this all done by the end of the Easter weekend - planning to rope in some hubby muscle-power. Then I can board the sides, and set up a cloche to start warming up the soil. I have some spinach, lettuce and mangetout peas all desperate to escape the plant nursery aka spare bedroom!
                           
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                            Feeling crappy and not doing anything in the garden today. Covered in an awful rash which i can only assume is an allergy to something I've touched in the garden. Boo hoo.
                             
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                              You not been touching Hogweed have you? :yikes:
                               
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