What would you do if you saw a young girl getting bullied?

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  1. pete

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    I know bullying is pretty nasty, but it has gone on since people were invented.
    There are lots of forms of bullying and the worst kinds are pretty awful, but you aint going to stop it.
    It happens, it happened to kids when I was at school.
    As far as I know, they just got over it, cant remember many suicides or mental health issues back then.

    You were just told to get over it, may sound harsh but in the minor cases it works, and stops it becoming a big time issue.
     
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      :heehee:

      Yup, that's a good reason why I don't subscribe to social media in that context ;)
       
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      So, so sorry to read that :grphg:
       
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        Worse thing is the fella that carried out the attack did a bunk to Spain, so has not been held accountable for it.

        Rusty
         
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          This is horrible however you are mentioning a situation with drunken men, not bullying teens. Totally different scenario.

          And now that I'm an old broad, I am pretty much cinsidered gender neutral :heehee:
           
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            The only thing that sets us apart from other animals is that we have enough self awareness to at least attempt to continuously improve as a collective. Not very many years ago, it was considered normal and acceptable to take people as slaves. Even more recent than that, it was considered normal and acceptable to treat women as subservient objects. More recently still, we considered it normal to ignore mental wellbeing and hush up any slips.

            We move on. That's a good thing. Bullying does happen, but it should not. And we should not accept it.

            And no. People don't always get over it. I know a few people that were bullied at school. Some seem alright until someone says the wrong thing and triggers something in their mind. Others are blatantly messed up. Some are now the bullies, retaliating against everyone and anyone for stuff that someone else did 20 or 30 years before.

            And how do you know there weren't many suicides? That's another thing that used to be hushed up more than it is now. People have accidents, or sudden illnesses, or other mishaps. Suicide can also be slow, but still suicide. Liver failure from excessive alcohol consumption over a period of years, or even just generally completely neglecting health until it fails, because they don't care. School friend of mine, later as an adult, died having accidentally taken an overdose of illegal drugs. I'm not sure of the details because I'd long since fallen out with him before it happened. He had been bullied as a kid. Did he commit suicide? Possibly, possibly not. Undeniably though, he killed himself.
             
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              I know it is a different scenario, but he stood up to someone who he thought was not acting as they should towards another person and his life is ruined.

              Teenagers can also carry knives and teenage knife crime is a massive problem.

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                It's a self perpetuating problem too unfortunately. Many teenagers carry knives to defend themselves against teenagers carrying knives. The media has a lot to answer for. They've created this perception, and so so it has become a reality.

                Ironically, there is a statistic that you are more likely to get cut if you carry a knife than if you don't. I think this is yet another reason why, in my opinion, any of the traditional martial arts should be taught in school. That sounds daft, like teaching aggressive people how to be more efficient at violence. But martial arts teaches self respect, as well as teaching the reality of the brutality and ultimately futility of violence, so that your less likely to start it, and more able to oppose it. Incidentally it was after watching a renowned kung fu master doing a defence against multiple random bullies video that led me to the first video in this thread. It was in the suggestions from the other video. I'd show the other one, but unfortunately one personality trait of this kung fu guy is his language is more than a little bit naughty.

                EDIT. I've rewatched the video. He keeps his language in check in this one. Apart from one minor indiscretion about half way through.
                 
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                Teach kids to run. Run fast if a weapon is involved.

                Over here, when in the woods, if a bear tries to attack , don't be the slowest ...

                I can outrun my oh any day.... wo der why he never wants to go hiking ...:loll:
                 
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                  It surprises a lot of people that many (possibly most, being seeing as I only know a few, I can't say)martial arts teachers teach exactly this.

                  In fact not just if a weapon is involved.

                  The best self defense against a violent encounter is to get out of there, or better still, avoid it in the first place by paying attention to what's going on all around you.

                  Even if it does come to an actual exchange of force, very often what is taught is how to immobilise your attacker just long enough to escape. A common theme seems to be to throw your attacker to the floor in various ways, while inflicting strain injuries to their arms or legs, so that they temporarily can't use them effectively, and therefore can't fight effectively, then you escape if possible.
                   
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                  while I have no story to tell. but have no issue intervening. I often call the police on a dog in a hot car, and then just stand and wait for the police to appear. Prior to that the owners my appear and decide to use wonderful choice of words. It does not faze me, after all prior to that I have already thought of them as donkey drippings.
                   
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