Whats Looking Good in August....

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  1. Waco

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    Have I got this wrong or what, but thought clerodendrons did not like lime. I always stay clear of "dendron" and "rhodo" instinctively, but are lime and chalk different or have I just got it completely wrong?
     
  2. Victoria

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    Waco, I thought Clerodendrons preferred peaty type soil but as previously mentioned mine doesn't like anythng! :(

    Jazid, it seems your Pheasant Berry has the same ailment problem as my Clerodendron! :D :D :D
     
  3. jazid

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    Well mine's proof that they like lime, and there's lots of it in that garden. I never heard of them needing one soil or another, or I would have been more cautious.

    Agree with you LoL about the Leycesteria, maybe you should try one of them instead?
     
  4. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Waco, rhodon= rose, dendron=tree,
    Niether word has anything to do with lime. [​IMG]
     
  5. Waco

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    Yes pete, but its suprising how many plants with those words in do not like lime so if I see them I always look up conditions. Must be just coinsidence.
     
  6. frogesque

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    Laveteria looks good from late June right through to October . This is L. 'Barnsley'

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    and the first of the Dahlia 'Edinburgh' has come out.

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  7. jazid

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    Also Waco, and I don't know the latin root but this is ClerodenDRUM, not denDRON so not a tree, though it is. What?

    Being a nag here, and possibly incorrect, but Pete - doesn't rhodo=red, rather than rose?

    So why is it that many people find botanical latin confusing..

    I don't, I was the only person at my school ever allowed to give it up. Coincidental or conspiracy? I dunno
     
  8. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    You could be right jasid, I'm just quoting from a book I have, latin is not something I know much about although someone did give me a book on botanical latin once, it was 2in thick.
    I didn't get passed page one. :D
     
  9. pete

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    Same dodgy book says clerodendrum comes from the greek kleros meaning chance and dendron meaning tree, meaning it has chancey medicinal properties.
    You did put dendron and not dendrum when you posted the pic. [​IMG]
     
  10. jazid

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    Like I say, I have no probs with it; I'm just wrong half of the time [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  11. pete

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    Yep, arn't we all. :D
     
  12. jazid

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    Just looked through my books - Clerodendr (so far so good) originally 'on' in Banks & Solanders herbarium descriptions (as reported by Linnaeus no less), subsequently renamed as a genera Volkameria, then I lose track. Now 'um', with the 'glory bower' C. thomsoniae having a common name of Clerodendron. Why do people find this confusing?

    Apparently the curious ant-plants of Papua belong to this genus. Wow! Good to see LoL growing them in Portugal - they won't grow here... [​IMG]
     
  13. jazid

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    And I got the same derivations from latin, so at least we can all be wrong together (or right of course) :D :D :D
     
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    Clerodendrum or Clerodendron ... it all depends on which books you read .,.. come from China, Japan and the Himalayas ... I didn't know about Papua (New Guinea, the cannibalistic country?). Yes, they are cooler climate creatures but they live in USDA zones 7-10 and I am a 10 .... ratings .... [​IMG] most of you are 8-9. I have mine in a morning-only sun position ... but it's cack, doesn't work! So I need to replace it with the Pheasant Berry .. or certainly something else! :eek: :rolleyes:

    Perhaps it is a tree by chance ???? :confused:
     
  15. Rich

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    Don't take any notice of the USDA zones as far an Britan is concerned. They are based on the coldest average winter temperatures. Our cold is damp and penetrating, thus 25f here is a lot colder than 25f in say Minnesota. Also they have much hotter humid summers than us.

    Maps I've seen show the split east/west rather than north/south, we in Kent are in the same zone 7 as the Shetlands while the mountains of Snowdonia are zone 8, work that out. There seems to be no correlation with the USA whatsoever.

    Just took a pic in the garden. I know I've shown these dats before, but they seem to be developing more colour around the edges.

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