When are cyclists going to be dealt with properly?

I can only go by my own experiences of what I've witnessed.

I won't go into details. We've discussed it before. But suffice to say that I start off giving all groups and individuals a certain amount of respect, and they can then build on it or erode it. I am at a point now where I don't feel I could trust a copper.

I know I'm not the only one that feels that way. They themselves know they have a problem. That's why they keep getting told to run initiatives to try to win trust back.

 

2 force's around here have had problems even police have been taken to court for what they have done even the top man at one force got done for misconduct
both force's had a slap on the rist because they weren't logging call's
last year there was lots of news about the police at what some officers were up to
Do i trust them, answer is No at the moment but when your at the bottom the only way is up
1 force done a op a few years back, which was, they set up a bi-cycle in the city and some walked up with bolt cutters and stole the bike in day light and in very busy centre, No one phoned in to say some one is stealing the bike and all on camera

But there is some good police men/women out there but they can't do all the work

 

As with all sections of society there are coppers and coppers, some good some not so good and some probably bad.
It's the usual thing, that the few, end up getting the rest tarred with the same brush.

Must say though I think traffic cops are probably the ones that most of us actually come up against, and often they do come over as a bunch of "jobsworths".

 

I wonder if the officer would have acted the same if it were a 20 year old yob riding on the pavement.

 

Narr might have got his helmet knocked off.

 

Or end up wearing the bike.lol

 

You don't have to personally know them "m" . Just look at how many individual policemen/women are being taken to court and how many forces are being investigated by the IPCC.

 

Ray Mallon - Wikipedia

 

How many?
How many lead to prosecution/dismissal?
I *do* know, for a fact, that a large percentage of those investigations lead to unsubstantiated claims/NFA. So, just because a number could be quoted as being "investigated" does not equate to the same number being justified. Complaints against Police are par for the course; rightly so! They should be held to account! Do not be misled by numbers of complaints under "investigation" - that can be very misleading and not a number to be taken as proof of guilt.
Pity we don't see how many are commended for their hard work, going above and beyond the call of duty; receiving letters on their PF for a job well done etc. But then, those don't make the headlines, do they
There are bad apples in all walks of life, that is a human condition. Yet, not in all walks of life are the bad apples held to public scrutiny, most especially by the media.

Most interestingly though, the people who complain the loudest are the people who do not do that job - so easy to judge from the side lines

An absolute (avoidable) tragedy!
Although, in fairness to your comment ... an extreme case (thankfully) and not quite a run of the mill example. Also, bear in mind, that was also just one of the Police forces of the 43 which exist in the UK.

Precisely!

 

Don't know much about that case, but, my guess is that he was very young in service and yes, he most likely would have done! Had the cyclist been on his mobile phone as well, or even drunk (or both!) he would have wet himself with excitement at a hat trick

 

There is an accusation now that the coppers at Hillsborough took a very similar approach that they did at the Battle of Orgreave, and had the earlier incident been investigated, procedures might have been changed or questioned and the Hillsborough disaster may not have happened.

But in any case, when Hillsborough was mentioned, I'm not sure what the intent was but I took it to be more of a reference to the disgraceful cover up that came to light, more than the incident itself.

 

Go steady good people, lets not get into an arguement.

Keep it friendly

 

Ain't it funny that with all the talk of Hillsborough, orgeave etc I'm the only to get the mighty m's disagree again.... I'm out of it.... Oh well, that's life.

 

Already keepin a mod eye on this one Anthony

 

Anyway.....


Coming out of a car park yesterday evening, I saw a cyclist holding up a long line of traffic by occupying the centre line of the lane, so that nobody could pass. That is his legal right, but it's not the etiquette. Especially annoying was the fact that there was a completely empty, perfectly good, off the road cycle track running parallel to the road. As someone who is sometimes a cyclist, I know that not only would I use that perfectly good cycle lane, I'd be happy to trust my child to use it because it as safe as realistically possible.

As said annoying cyclist passed the junction I was waiting to emerge from, I saw him veer off the road and just for a moment I thought he was going to use the cycle lane. Nope. He ignored it again and continued off, this time along the pedestrian footpath.