When did we go soft?

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  1. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Surely no one is quite that old.:D
     
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    Apart from you and sarra. I can understand now though, why he left.
     
  3. cajary

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    Dai, it was 62/63. The snow came down on Boxing day at night (about 2' that's feet, mate, not inches). It stayed, banked up on the sides of the roads 'till April. We walked to school 'cause the buses couldn't run, for a long time. The difference was, the teachers all lived within walking distance. You were within walking distance of your work. The world has turned. There were very few cars on the road. As regards bosses insisting their peasants turn up for work under any circumstances, fine, all they think of is profit. They don't care if the workforce puts themselves in danger. :)
     
  4. shiney

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    I remember the winter of 62/63 quite clearly. I joined the Merchant Navy on 6th December 1962 and sailed from Southampton on the 10th. The snow started down there on the night of the 9th and we thought we were lucky to be sailing off to warm countries for the winter. Apparently the snow came in really badly towards the end of December and by New Year's Eve all shipping across the Channel had stopped.

    Whilst I was down in the southern hemisphere I remember congratulating myself on being away from the cold but we came back in Feb after my first trip and the snow was thick on the ground. By the time I came back in May from my second trip there was still snow on the ground. :(

    Cajary, when I insisted that my staff turned up it was not because of profit but because, as a small business, we needed the takings. I couldn't afford to lose the takings and pay the staff as well. That would have been a double loss. It would simply have meant either some redundancies or the business closing. :flag::)

    My staff stayed with me because they knew exactly how well, or badly, the business was doing. They all had access to the books and the accounts and knew how much everyone in the business earned - including myself. :)
     
  5. Sussexgardener

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    From a quality of life point of view, wouldn't it be better if more of us lived closer to work? Parents would get to spend more time with their families, congestion wouldn't be so heavy and possibly less accidents as motorists would be less tired after long commutes and smaller towns might actually survive as places people want to live and enjoy, rather than being turned into commuter towns.
     
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    I can remember... just..
    The winter of 62/63.
    I was in the RAF stationed in Norfolk. and the temp stayed below zero for like three weeks. I can remember the ice fog..crystral clear ice freezing on everything it touched, and I mean everything! Trees heavy with it, roads and sides of buildings. It was bad news and It seemed to last for ever.
    Being RAF we keeped it all going with the use of some very serious snow/ice removal equipment and chemicals. Opening frozen hangar doors was a real struggle..
    robert
     
  7. clueless1

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    We can't blame the youngsters. Their lack of spine is a symptom rather than the cause. When I was a kid my dad would have me out on my bike, or helping in his allotment, or a few times in his little fishing boat, regardless of how cold it was. I grew up in a freezing cold house and like most people up until a few years ago, I walked or cycled to school in all weather because I had to. Now I have no fear of the weather no matter what it throws at me. You just have to wear clothes to suit the conditions.

    At some point, parents must have stopped making their kids help in the allotment, or walk/ride to school in all weather, and consequently a generation of softies was born. They grew up and their kids were/are soft. I just struggle to understand when and why it happened. It just seemed to go from not being to soft to always been soft without any noticeable decay in between.
     
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    Clueless, it's one of those deep mysteries of life that can never be solved :hehe:.
     
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    :wink: I remember the winter of 62/63 very well.... I remember s****ing Jack Frost from the inside of your bedroom window with the rest of you, but I still say it was Maggie's governments that turned the younger generation into ME ME ME type people...!!!
    That I think, sadly, has allot to do with the way the young think today... A generation that thinks of it's self first & others, maybe afterwards.. That is why they want everything their way & for themselves & for nothing & no effort.....!!!!!!!
    Hand it to them on a plate & they are happy they do not seem to see value in anything these days.......!:mad::mad:
     
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    Errm - have you lot ever been into a town centre on a night lately, and seen how few clothes the kids wear when waiting to get into the night clubs - even on the coldest nights some of them are barely dressed (I spelled that correct I think) - I'm not convinced this current generation is any less hardy than we were. :lollol:
     
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    Very true. But you ask any of those people to walk to work/college in a blizzard because the buses have been canceled, or do an outdoor job in the middle of winter with their fingers having gone past numb and into that pain you get under your fingernails when the cold is really getting to you. Some would, but many wouldn't.
     
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    The scantily clad look is unique to Britain, even more bizarrely as it does get cold in winter here. But its not pretty, not clever and seems to get more prevalent, the further North in the country you go.
     
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    :lollol::hehe::lollol::hehe::lollol::hehe::lollol::hehe:

    Oi you!! Watch yoursen`
     
  15. cajary

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    Shiney, sorry. Wish I'd had you as a boss. Us peasants knew nothing about what was going on. Just the big stick. (Didn't work too well):)
    Sussex, the last time I was made reduntant I made up my mind that I wouldn't go further than a bike ride for a job. It means you have to take a reduction in pay. I was in a position where I could do that. Some people aren't:)
     
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