why BIGGER and not SMALLER?

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  1. shiney

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    I think that only a small minority (although they might try to make themselves look big :heehee:) are obsessed with having things bigger. Bigger is not necessarily better but neither is smaller.

    I think that a lot of people are satisfied, if not happy, with what they have. They still may aspire to something different but that is rarely an obsession. Wanting something different, (admittedly, usually bigger and not smaller) can be something worth aspiring to.

    We wanted a bigger garden because we loved gardening and also wanted to grow all our fruit and veg. The only way to achieve this was for us to move to a smaller house in the country with a large and extremely neglected garden. Over the years we have not only worked on the garden but increased the size of our house (now three bedrooms) to accommodate the uses we have for the space. The title 'three bedrooms' is a misnomer as we only have one bedroom. The other 'bedrooms' are used for our interests and hobbies and we have run out of space. We also have to use the summerhouse (our lovely addition 6 years ago when we inherited some money from the sale of my mother's bungalow - thanks mum :dbgrtmb: :wub2:) for our expanded interests and for friends and relatives to use when they come to stay.

    Other people have different ideas. A cousin of mine, who people always looked upon as my twin, couldn't wait for his children to move out of the house (a bit of an exaggeration :D) so that he could sell it and downsize. They sold their four bedroom suburban house with a medium sized garden and moved to a two bed flat by the sea. Hated having a garden and are blissfully happy where they are.

    Some of our neighbours hardly ever use their large gardens but do enjoy boasting about them to their acquaintances. They have also extended their houses to 4, 5 or even 6 bedrooms. These are probably the type of people you are referring to. I look upon them as helping to keep the economy going. They employ builders, gardeners, cleaners etc and spend a lot of money making their places look posher and replace a lot of the things they have with the latest versions. They have to work very hard to make the money to do so and I'm content to let them do their showing off.

    This doesn't make them bad people, just different from the way I want to be.

    I was brung up in the East End of London and in Norf London and that was considerably better than where Mrs shiney was brought up.

    People are people. We all have our own ideas of what we want and are fortunate if we can achieve them.
     
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      That's me! I could have carried on working after I retired early but instead my wife gave her career and we both live a much happier life on a fraction of what we previously earned.


      Mother's family came from the East End & father's from Norf London - it really gets my wife going for some reason when I do impressions of my relatives.
       
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      I had to have the right accent, language and expressions when I had my stall down Roman Road market :dbgrtmb:
       
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      So we've got mostly people, with one or two exceptions, who are happy with what they've got. But we've all got to have our dreams and fantasies of things we desire even though we probably won't ever attain them. We gardeners are a romantic lot and probably the worst for wanting to better things, so dream on, guys and gals.


      Mandy, there's on one thing wrong with your garden...........it's in France!!!!!!!!!:heehee::D:stirpot: I wouldn't say that we're that congested in the UK, but when you left I was able to plant a few more things.:loll::mute:

      I think I can say "snap" over your thoughts about being technically a Townie but loving the open spaces. Being in the RAF for twenty two years meant lots of countryside and open spaces, plus 6 years in the plains of Kenya underlined it all. I hate going into Cities and being in crowds now.
       
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        Very hard to dislike this post...:sunny:
         
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          bottom line .... we all have dreams and aspirations and that is always a good thing

          make the most of what you have

          and most importantly, it does not matter where you live (or what you own) ....

          what matters is how you live
           
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            Whatever sized garden we have had (and we've had quite a few) I have always enjoed gardening. The pleasures of watching things grow, of the new years' flowers coming into bloom are not really affected by how big the garden is.
            Currently we have down-sized in garden terms as the physical effort needed was becoming a bit of a burden - those of you with youth on your side should enjoy whatever size of garden you can manage........
             
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              I work as a gardener .... some huge gardens where I mow with a sit on and takes me 6 hrs to mow/sort the edges .... some small gardens where it takes me 7 minutes to mow with a flymo

              the nicest of the bunch is the small garden where it takes 7 minutes to mow .... the garden is 'full' has been landscaped by a very well known landscaper ...

              there is an antique victorian bench in a shady corner, an acer bloodgood, an idian bean tree a birdbath, and loads of perinnials that have been very cleverly planted, so that there is colour throughout the year .... plus a 3m wall covered in creepers that always have colour .... bees and butterflies are always present

              and .... the house is a grade A listed with skew walls and a thatch roof .... it used to be an old sweet shop in bygone days ....

              and to top it all, the young couple who live there are the nicest/most pleasant people who I work for

              its always a pleasure to work there and I often just sit on the bench and have a cigarette and relax ... I'd buy that place (if I could afford it) .... there is just something about the place that 'feels right'
               
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              You're right, I really miss all those cold winds and rain. :loll:

              Glad I was of service. :heehee:
               
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                Exactly. I have everything I need and almost everything I want. Of the 'wants', I certainly have all of the most important ones. I want a yacht and a ferrari and a couple of million quid in the bank. I haven't got those wants, but I do have infinitely better ones. I have a spacious house close to most of the people I care most about, I share the house with my lovely wife and son, and I have a job that pays for everything we really need. I also own a patch of wide open space in the countryside, 20 miles from my house, so I don't need more garden (in fact I'm struggling a bit with what I've got).

                The only thing that needs to change, and its not about snobbery or fashion, is that I need to tweak my garden a bit so that when I'm chilling out at home, I can feel as though I'm not in a large box. Between us and the old lady next door, we have the fence that I've termed the Berlin wall. Its only about 6ft high but it is made of wooden planks and it is just such a dominant 'feature' of the garden. To the other side is the church. For some reason they've felt it necessary to erect an 8ft high fence made of iron bars with spikes on top. The result is you go out there, and you sort of feel like you're in jail.

                So in my case its not about actually having more space, its just about making it feel as though I have more space. In fact really its not even that, its more about rectifying the sensation that you have less space than you actually have.
                 
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                  The problem is, there are to many people suffering from what my family call 'sheep syndrome'. If somebody else has got it, they must have it bigger and better. They have to follow what everybody else does because they can't think for themselves.

                  I have down-sized twice in the last sixteen years, the first time, to be able to move to and afford to live on this beautiful island, where property is more expensive, and the second time to be able to pay off our mortgage and move into a bungalow which only has two bedrooms. Lower bills, less housework and more time for gardening!

                  No! We didn't move here for tax reasons.

                  People we know just can't get their heads round this. Those same people can't understand why we got rid of our television. Shock! Horror! No television, what on earth do you find to do? They'd be surprised! :)
                   
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                    This reminds me of an incident from my school days.

                    We were given some homework that required us to watch a documentary that was on that evening, and then write an essay about it.

                    I told the teacher I couldn't do it, because months before hand we'd made a unanimous decision in our house to get rid of the telly, because we were all outdoors sorts and really couldn't be bothered with telly.

                    A couple of days later, when I didn't hand in my essay, I got in trouble for not doing my homework. When I replied that I hadn't done it because we didn't have a telly at home, and that I'd told the teacher this before hand, I got put on detention for a week for failing to do my homework, and for lying. I can remember clearly one thing that the teacher shouted at me: "you insult me by lying to me, EVERYBODY has a tv at home".

                    My week's detention turned out to be just that first evening, because when I went home late and told my dad why, he decided to talk to the school the next day, and demand to know why they were trying to force the kids to become telly addicts.
                     
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                      We do just what we want and don't follow any trends. Last year we changed our settee and armchairs after 43 years and our last TV (yes, we do have one) lasted 26 years. Alright, the TV remote control hadn't worked for the last ten years and neither had the on/off switch on the TV (had to switch it on at the wall) but we didn't watch it much. I have to admit that I enjoyed Hitchikers Guide To The Galaxy. :o

                      Clueless, I hope your dad really gave the teacher a hard time.

                      There weren't that many TV's around when I was young but my father said he wouldn't have one in the house until my sister and I had finished schooling. I can't actually remember ever having one at home. We did all listen to the Archers, Dick Barton and Journey Into Space but we had to finish our homework first. I remember going up the road to a friend's house to watch the Coronation on their TV. :D
                       
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                        you mean the 'sheeple'

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