work for your benefits

Wouldn't argue with this one PG. But the "fine details" are really important on this one. We're talking about kids, the next generation. They're going to be running the world when your'e an old man and can't just belt someone when they you off.
The world is changing, already you're out of touch with the future

 

I have friends and family who work hard and collect family tax credit, There no better off as they have to pay Dinner money(£1.80 per day per child) as well as full rent and council tax, 16 hours is minimum but are advised to work 30 hours plus to feel the benefit, they are lucky because they have family to watch there children in the holidays, Not all parents have that sort of backup, and childcare is expensive...The goverment have you always, so if your worse off going to work, I can sort of see there point, im not stickng up for the lazy ones who dont even try to help themselve's, but life isn't just black or white....

 

phew:D:D
what about the kids that have two parents sat at home all year round claiming social:confused: sod all thats what happens either bad back or depression they tell the doc ...bingo another sick note.....well bet they find it too much and hard work to do a bit in the local park...lets hope it happens

 

i agree yd that its not all black and white but i bet we all know people who survive ok and never even looked for work...thats who we need to stop paying..:thumb: or get them of the fat lazy

 

I reckon this is a more honest discussion than all the thieving, lying swine that call themselves politicians are having about it.

But there is no way of guaranteeing an income for your old age which won`t involve working for it at the time. It happened to my Dad, paid into a pension all his life, even had savings and bonds, he used to boast about how he had set himself up, but times change they don`t cover everything. He still has to work

And you`re only young yet PG, I don`t know what life has to throw at me either, but I can only do my best with what I have responsibilty for today and just try to keep an eye open for the future.

And I agree with you about the ones that do just sit on their backsides doing nothing and expect a handout. The real danger is when the rules that are put in pace to deal with these layabouts damage those that deserve help, and need help.

 

The real danger is when the rules that are put in pace to deal with these layabouts damage those that deserve help, and need help.

Agree.

 

Well, inter, how do you tell the differnce between those who need help and those who don't??:confused:

 

The curerent situation is unsustainable at present though. With increasing life expectancy and as mentioned the pension problems the country simply cant aford to pay out benefits to the able bodied.

 

This is why I suggested a chat-room

 

Yeah Inter, But i bet they escape the Net, There's no way you could get them up and into cleaning the parks, stop there dole and theyll find other ways to make money, and not legally either.. too many arrogant toera*s around now with no pride in themselve's, The goverment has helped to shape these people inter....Dee..

 

PG be careful. I paid into a pension and they stole it. Any clever will steal yours. This is a system that looks at you as a mug

 

the real sick and needy and single mothers is a different case so i think we all agree:thumb: i have a brother in law who has turned into one lazy swine rent paid tax paid and gets 140 a fortnight....swingin the lead and when he has it up the wall he comes round here all day after a sub and telling you how skint he is...no way ozay the bloke is depressing told him go job cntr before he comes round ours moaning...he is now barred from the house untill he gets a job or he will go through the window,,,sorry but him and thousands more get right up my

 

There are a lot of genuine people claiming sick benefit, but i bet theres more that aren't! 02

 

Aye you cant win and even in death they take it.

The only folk who escape it are the very rich including the damned poloticians.

 

So how do you tell the difference?