Would you go back?

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  1. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Poor old Maggie, she's still getting the blame for everything :D
     
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    Paladin Gardening...A work of Heart

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    AKA..Thatcher the kiddies milk snatcher!...Don't forget....It was horrible warm stuff though [​IMG] ...I still can't drink milk even now :(
     
  3. good digger

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    I think the poll tax was maggies worst effort.
     
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    I think it was her best!!! she just brought it in 10 years too early.

    I was living on my own paying a fortune in council tax and struggling to pay my own mortgage (females back in those days were not supposed to buy their own houses, you were expecter to get married and the man provided all that) Now so many people live on their own I think poll tax would be welcomed by many.

    As to school milk, mine was never warm, we used to get "mushrooms" on top - the cream on the top froze and when you took the silver or was it red top off you got a mushroom of frozen milk.
     
  5. macleaf

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    i wish we had Maggie now,our country is in such a shambles even our little Leaf is thinking of moving abroad
     
  6. good digger

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    Prior to the poll tax my rates were�£21 per month as soon as the poll tax came in we had to pay�£75 per month, and then there was the way that the miners got shafted, rose tinted specs are good for looking back, if you had the misfortune to live in a small rural community that had a coal pit as its main employer, you were stuffed and the very fabric of the community was ripped out overnight many people had bad times back then
     
  7. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    The poll tax was the best idea she had, why shouldn't everyone be responsable and pay their own way.
    The level that it was set at was debatable but the idea is sound.
    As for the miners well that was down to old Arthur wanting to hold the country to ransom.
    When Maggie took over this country was on it knees.
     
  8. Victoria

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    [​IMG] [​IMG] Pete, regarding tax. There's many reasons why we live here! And please don't take that the wrong way ... we pay tax in the UK and here. However, the system here a fair system.

    Besides that, it's just generally cheap to live here, especially when you're on a very limited income.

    Wouldn't go back there if you paid me, sadly to say!
     
  9. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    I'm really out of order here, but why is it that other countries can get away without taxing their populations as much as others.
    Its usually the so called rich nations that do it, we must have a large black hole somewhere, but I suppose we better not go there :D
     
  10. Victoria

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    You know why it is, Pete, as much as I do.

    There we paid �£1,300 a year property tax for an old 2-bedroom cottage in 2001.

    Get ready for this shock .. because our old 2-bedroom cottage here is prior 1950 we pay 10 Euros (�£7) a year tax. This tax only came into effect two years ago, before that we paid nothing.

    Besides my fantastic weather (which is a health thing) and the gardening I love so much .. there are so many more benefits here.

    BTW ... we should be looking at the Mill this week, and we have just found out it has a bar ... ie, bar/cafe attached to it!
     
  11. good digger

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    Arthur Scargill was as bad as Maggie the point i was trying to make is that the premature closure of working coal pits in areas where there was was little or no alternative real employment destroyed communities overnight,lots and lots of people suffered much hardship, I agree James Callaghan had made a real mess of things for the incoming government, I have no ill feelings toward either politician i neither support nor deride each political leader, The poll tax should have been developed based on peoples ability to pay when people were struggling with high interest rates which were at 12% and then having the rates hiked up by three times the amount you paid the month before and then combine this with every cotton mill in the region closed down followed by every pit in the region closed and 90% of the workers in one tiny area is on the bones of their ar**e because of poor judgement by a politician who has no financial restrictions and these decisions are bound to cause resentments in communities that were hit hard and these resentments will not go away until every generation who was adversely affected by them is long dead.
     
  12. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    I know what your saying in some way gd, we didn't have the coal mines around here that you had up north, but we did have a few in Kent and they are still pretty derelict.
    But I cant help thinking that the massive wage claims and the miners strikes that crippled the country in the seventies wasn't in effect signing their own death warrant.
    Coal can be bought elsewhere, and thats what they did, cant help thinking we should be still digging it out in this country.

    The bar sounds good LOL, has it got a hotel as well, we could all come over. :D :D
     
  13. good digger

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    Apparently we have enough coal under the mainland UK to meet our needs for a couple of hundred years, in fact with the rise in gas prices. ...do you have a good spade mate we could make ourselves a fortune!
     
  14. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    I think most of them have flooded now, is that so?
     
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    I don't think anyone could find it Pete, it's so way out! And, of course, it's always open house with us, my friends.

    Hopefully have an appointment to look this week. We are not "bar/club" people but now that we've discovered one actually comes with the mill (our dream) and the rest ... well ...

    watch this space ... asking price �£100,000 ... perhaps offering price ... we just sold on the IoW ....
     

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