Would you pay extra for a pint of milk

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Would you pay extra for milk

Poll closed Jan 30, 2015.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. May be

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  1. Jiffy

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    I don't think so, i know that a sample is taken by the tanker driver every time they pick up milk from farms to test, but this is done to test for things that should not be there and quality
     
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    I would definately pay more for my milk as i worked in a dairy for over 15 yrs before i got made redundant..The price back in the late 1980s is the same price as it is now..You could get 4 pints from the supermarket back then for a quid and its the same price now..to be honest its shocking how they treat the poor dairy farmers..but its the supermarkets that dictate the price..I am surprised that dairy farmers can still afford to be in buisness selling it for pennys..YES i mean pennys
     
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      It was my mistake:dunno:, Val, and you have to agree that the both of you are different, so back to the theme of the thread which is Milk and fairness to Farmers.:coffee:
       
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      • Spruce

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        If it went directly to the farmers I would pay xtra , I used to work on dairy farm and I know the margins of making ££ is very low.
         
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          Hi Yvonne

          Cows do like being out in the fields so totally agree with what you have written.

          When I worked on the dairy farm , during the winter they were kept in the cow sheds and yards as no grass to eat or very little nutrition to be gained from the pastures plus all the mud around the hooves they would go lame , but I remember one day the gate fell off the shed and all 100 cows ran out to the fields as fast as they could kicking there heals in the air with excitement of getting out the sheds , we left them for a hour to settle down and we were just about to get them all back in and it poured down with rain and they soon came back in by themselves :snork: in the dry and warm !!!
           
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          • "M"

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            Our Mandy had a senior moment and made a typo. Bit like when I call Mr "M" by our son's name (even though son is miles away :doh: ) :heehee:

            @Spruce - in my youth, there was a meadow where the cows grazed freely and I spent many summer hours there (cowpat jumping, mainly :heehee: ). One day, I was wearing a brand new, ultra bright red sweater and my brothers thought it would be a hoot to tell me (after I had entered the field!) that cows don't like red :hate-shocked: Naturally, them being older than me, I believed *every* word they said and happened to notice the cows *looking* at me :th scifD36:. Fearful of my life (and my brand new, ultra red jumper) I ran to the nearest safety point: up a tree. Much to the amusement of my brothers - who wandered off, chuckling. Wasn't until it was nearly dark that I braved coming back down again (and got a clip around the ear from my mother for being late home :doh:)

            Ah well, at least the cows were happy :heehee:
             
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            • Jack McHammocklashing

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              I would willingly pay more for dairy products PROVIDING it was the farmers who got the extra and not supermarket share holders

              As for water more expensive then just look at the name EVIAN (in a mirror) :-)

              Jack McH
               
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                I have my milk from Peak District dairy, local cows, local farmers, local delivery drivers
                 
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                  I would be willing to pay more too only if the supermarkets don't gain anything!
                   
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                    Agreed.

                    But, this is an interesting one:
                    ~ we all buy milk
                    ~we are all paying the same price we did from years back
                    ~ we all depend on milk: to a greater or lesser degree

                    So: as consumers, how can we possible make a difference? :dunno:
                    Yes, we could all boycott supermarket milk ... but then, where would we get it from? :noidea:
                    Fine if you live somewhere where you could buy it direct from the producer (but that would be a very small minority indeed).
                    Also, while the majority of GC voters might be happy to pay more for their milk (with the proviso it goes to the farmers and not shareholders/fat cat directors/profits), just how much more would you be prepared to pay? 10%? 50%? 100%? Or, put another way, just how much more do you believe it is worth to your daily/weekly/monthly budget?

                    How about a different perspective: cows produce a goodly quantity of methane gas - a gas which is attributed to playing a part in global warming. So, what if milk carried a subsidy towards the global warming issues? Would you still feel happy to pay more for your daily pint? Only in this instance, it wouldn't go to the farmer, or the supermarket but to the government? :dunno:

                    Then, there is *another* angle: what of those people who are lactose intolerant and have no need of dairy products. If they can flourish and thrive without dairy milk/products, could we all? Does it then make dairy products a luxury item as opposed to a daily requirement? :dunno: Has it just become a consumer "habit"

                    On the face of it, it is very clear cut: would you pay more for your milk. But, the more you consider other aspects, the deeper the question becomes and is not as clear cut as it first appears. :scratch:

                    Clearly I have lots of thoughts, but no answers :heehee:
                     
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                    We have our own dairy here on the island and as far as I know all our cows are pastured. Most of which are specialist breeds. The current price of a pint is 60p and yes I would pay more.
                     
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                      I also have an Amish farm that sells Raw milk. Have tried it, it is good. They have lots of customers who pick up gallons of it. My husband is very hesitant . So I use another market that carries the hormone free, local milk. But, I do buy a quart every now and then from the Amish farm, and have considered making homemade mozzerelli cheese from the raw milk which is full fat, so that would be good for the cheese.
                       
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                        I thought the fall in milk prices was due to a 'tit for tat' ban on EU dairy produce imports by Russia (and falling demand from China?) creating a surplus. But now with falling energy costs, I would expect supermarkets to pressurise all suppliers for even further price reductions (rather than let suppliers increase profits and/or salaries) because they're engaged in a price war.
                         
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                        We were talking about this at work today - its partly due to the tit-for-tat ban on EU dairy produce by Russia, and partly due to the supermarkets screwing the farmers to the deck in terms of price. At the end of the day, the supermarkets care not a jot about the farmers - if a farmer goes bankrupt, they will simply get their supply from someone else or even from outside the country. And all because the supermarkets want to use the staple products as lost leaders to get us in their doors....

                        A colleague was telling me that when he once worked for one of the major supermarkets, he was amazed at some of the stuff that went on, such as articulated lorry loads of sandwiches being imported from the middle of France.... Why? Surely we can make sandwiches here?

                        As far as I am concerned, there should be a law that states that dairy produce should ONLY be imported once the country's own farmers have exhausted their supply; and anything that is imported should have a tax levied upon it so that it is the same price (be it wholesale or retail) as the same product made in this country - - only if the cost exceeds the price of the UK equivalent should the tax be waived.

                        If supermarkets genuinely want to save us money whilst also helping farmers and retaining their own profit margins, then they need to make more use of the produce that is available to them here - - all the double yolk eggs, or funny shaped vegetables etc that are discarded or sent to animal feed for a start; if they were put on the shelves and not wasted (they are perfectly edible after all, and in many cases better than the 'uniform' stuff), then the cost would inevitably drop through volume alone.

                        Its time the tail stopped wagging the dog....
                         
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                          QUOTE M On the face of it, it is very clear cut: would you pay more for your milk. But, the more you consider other aspects, the deeper the question becomes and is not as clear cut as it first appears. :scratch:
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                          Indeed it becomes complicated, though only if you want it to, Lactose intolerance etc is not necessary in the argument
                          A Milk Marketing Board or some collective, Should work out, what the cost should be
                          to ensure, the Cow is not milked to death, the farmer not worked to death, and a fair living wage profit given, Then the MMB is disbanded and the normal index linked prices apply

                          One cow = 40 pints, one farmer can manage comfortably 100 cows, and costs to keep cows
                          so Farmer is entitled to 40p a pint, and supermarkets, shops etc are not allowed to buy it at anything less (imports from ROW not allowed )
                          No farmer allowed to keep more than the allocation of cows, without pro rata for herdsmen
                          and not allowed to squeeze the usual 48 pints per cow

                          You vill zee it my vey :-)

                          Prices of dairy will increase, though I would rather pay £3 for an Orkney Cheddar, than 80p for some supermarket special bland cxxp

                          Jack McH
                           
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