Yard garden - concrete floor is a mess

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  1. pete

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    If you have a pressure washer it would clean the concrete.
    I think whatever you use its going to look patchy and take ages to blend in.
     
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    Once patched up, could the whole lot be painted with maybe grey or sandy coloured masonry paint?
     
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      I think you can get floor paint which is ok outside.
       
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        It's not cheap is it.
        Just a thought but I have skimmed rough concrete with cement and sharp sand with a good dollop of water proof pva added to the mix.
        Also pva applied to the concrete with a brush before skimming.

        It really all depends on how sound the old concrete is if there is some movement nothing is going to do a long term fix.
         
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          I've been round to my mum's. The bad news is the floor is a lot worse than I remembered. Like, much worse.

          Here's some pics.

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          What's weird is it's like two separate floors. It actually might be historically. In the early history of the house, it was a farm house, with the farm out the back, so half the yard might have been concreted later and less thick.

          My son came up with an idea to install decking over the worst half, which would solve the problem of not being able to have anything higher than the door step. My mum is considering the idea. If we go with that then I just need to work out how to safely have a step up half way down the yard. Sounds like a trivial matter, but bear in mind my mother has known this house all her life. It used to be my grandparents. So the concern here is now we have an elderly person who knows the yard like the back of her hand, and may instinctively not pay full attention as she gets used to it being suddenly different.
           
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          On the bright side, it wouldn't be difficult to get up :biggrin: Looks as though the options are still to remove and re-surface or pressure-wash and put a screed over what's there......
           
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            I'd use a pick axe to get it out, it's too far gone to patch. Not sure how fit you are but once you get a pick axe in a weak spot concrete lifts out fairly easily. Depends on the depth but it looks thin. How big an area? You might need a skip if it's large.
             
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              I'd think twice about decking Clueless. It can become slippery and lethal during the winter months, unless you cover it with wire mesh.
               
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                I stick by getting rid of it. Definitely not decking.

                That step looks ancient and has a lot of character about it! The usage and wear over the years must be astonishing, along with the associated memories
                 
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                  I agree with what a couple of others have said, have it out. Once you have an entry point for a lever (pick axe/crowbar), it really is quite easy - lift and bash (you wouldn’t have to lift it by much). The only thing of note is to take care that the step isn’t damaged. To that end I’d probably want to use a ‘Hilti’ along the edge of the step to separate the concrete.
                   
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                    Its certainly not worth trying to patch up.

                    Some slabs near the house changing to gravel further out. I dont like gravel but it has its uses in areas your not walking on all the time.
                    Just a thought.
                     
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                      I'm going to suggest she gets a quote to have new concrete put down. I don't feel confident enough to do it myself. I reckon I could pick the worst of the concrete out before she gets someone in, that might save her a few quid on labour, but my concrete mixing skills are limited to setting fence posts. I built my own patio that's still good ten years on but for that I only used cement to hold stones in place, I've never done an expanse of concrete before.
                       
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