YOU'VE GOT TO BE JOKING, USA!!

pete · Nov 9, 2016

shiney said: ↑

I also wonder if this will hit the American tourist trade - as a travel agent has told me that they have noticed a drop off in enquiries for holidays to the U.S.A. They've been getting a number of enquiries about changing their holidays.
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Just booked my summer holiday for next year.

daitheplant · Nov 9, 2016

NigelJ said: ↑
Well that about Trumps it for the world; as with BREXIT be careful what you vote for you might get it.
Many of the same groups of people that voted for BREXIT have voted for Trump.
I feel the world is becoming a colder, darker and less friendly place.
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Which groups of people would that be then Nigel? What is worrying, is that Putin has said he is looking forward to working with President elect Trump.

Anthony Rogers · Nov 9, 2016

pete said: ↑
Well I tend to think it's not a bad thing, IO would have preferred a different candidate, but then he beat Clinton.
Have you noticed the TV refer to him as Trump, but Clinton as Hillary , you can tell by the way the news programmes are phrased they hate the result.

Now as far as I'm concerned we are outsiders just looking, on the side lines, and it really isn't up to us to judge the outcome of a foreign election, after all its what the population of America have voted.

The same old things are being said that were said overhear after the Brexit vote, "its the uneducated that have voted for Trump".
Well just maybe the uneducated have had enough of the so called educated running the show and making a mess of things.

I'm sure we will see much more muted version of Trump once he gets his feet under the table.
When was the last time a politician actually did what they said they was going to do?
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Hi Pete,

It's not what the people of the USA voted for, more people voted for Hillary Clinton. It's just their crooked way of deciding the results. For example if in one state the winner gets 6 " colleges " ( loosely translated as our constituencies ) and the loser wins 5 then the winner is awarded all 11. How corrupt is that ?

pete · Nov 9, 2016

Anthony Rogers said: ↑
Hi Pete,

It's not what the people of the USA voted for, more people voted for Hillary Clinton. It's just their crooked way of deciding the results. For example if in one state the winner gets 6 " colleges " ( loosely translated as our constituencies ) and the loser wins 5 then the winner is awarded all 11. How corrupt is that ?
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Your sounding like a sore loser Anthony.
Would you be saying the same if the vote had gone the other way?

Anthony Rogers · Nov 9, 2016

Yes I would, because I believe that people should get what they vote for.

I would also put money on it that this is what Trump meant when he said if he didn't win he would contest the result

pete · Nov 9, 2016

daitheplant said: ↑
Which groups of people would that be then Nigel? What is worrying, is that Putin has said he is looking forward to working with President elect Trump.
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So has Mrs May and whats her name? in Germany.
Merkel.

pete · Nov 9, 2016

Anthony Rogers said: ↑
Yes I would, because I believe that people should get what they vote for.

I would also put money on it that this is what Trump meant when he said if he didn't win he would contest the result
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I agree, but we don't over here and I do tend to think the American elections have a better way of weeding out the candidates.

That said, proportional representation is the only true democratic way to vote, but its the establishment that make the rules.
Maybe now that the rules tend not to be favouring the establishment quite so well we might get some new ideas regarding voting from that quarter.

ARMANDII · Nov 9, 2016

Well, I wasn't sure who would be voted in a POTUS but taking into account the turmoil globally in Poltics, with the UK leaving the EU, extreme nationalism gaining ground in France, Denmark, and more European countries, extremists in the Labour Party gaining control over their constituency voted in MP's, the surprise result in Colombia etc, I wasn't exactly shocked by the result.
I have to say that whether or not Clinton is regarded by Republican voters as a "Criminal" and their fixation over her alleged carelessness of e-mails, I would have thought that it was just as, if not more, criminal to avoid paying taxes, not paying the large number of contractors, small businesses the money owed to them while flying around in a Trump emblazoned Jet and living the best of everything even after being declared bankrupt 4 times. Neither candidate is/was of merit enough to run for the Presidency but it does show the desperate straits that the USA finds itself in at the moment....but it is indicative of the state of the World that has existed for some years and is now in, hopefully, the peak of the unrest.
Me?, I'm ordering 4 years supply of Popcorn, extra cushions for my arm chair, so that I can watch the chaos, shennanigans, boasts, lies and broken promises, the clashes with different countries and cultures

ARMANDII · Nov 9, 2016

Anthony Rogers said: ↑
It's not what the people of the USA voted for, more people voted for Hillary Clinton. It's just their crooked way of deciding the results. For example if in one state the winner gets 6 " colleges " ( loosely translated as our constituencies ) and the loser wins 5 then the winner is awarded all 11. How corrupt is that ?
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I wouldn't say it's corrupt, Anthony, but a Winner Takes All does distort a vote for vote outcome. It would make it fairer and harder for each candidate to reach the required number of votes required to be elected POTAS if they only took away the votes they'd actually won, but that ain't gonna happen!!!

ARMANDII · Nov 10, 2016

pete said: ↑
Your sounding like a sore loser Anthony.
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I don't think anyone, least of all the USA, is a winner, Pete. Let's face it you could'nt dream this up as a film or novel if you tried......nobody would believe it!!

pete · Nov 9, 2016

POTAS?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=potas

pete · Nov 9, 2016

ARMANDII said: ↑
I don't think anyone, least of all the USA, is a winner, Pete. Let's face it you could dream this up as a film or novel if you tried......nobody would believe it!!
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Believe it.
It has actually happened.
If it keeps the Dollar low they wont have any reason to put up the price of petrol.
Look on the bright side.

Its down to the USA to decide if they are a winner or not.

Anthony Rogers · Nov 9, 2016

pete said: ↑
I agree, but we don't over here and I do tend to think the American elections have a better way of weeding out the candidates.

That said, proportional representation is the only true democratic way to vote, but its the establishment that make the rules.
Maybe now that the rules tend not to be favouring the establishment quite so well we might get some new ideas regarding voting from that quarter.
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But Pete,

This was a form of proportional representation which is why it's wrong.

Please note I said " a form of "....

Anthony Rogers · Nov 9, 2016

ARMANDII said: ↑
Well, I wasn't sure who would be voted in a POTAS but taking into account the turmoil globally in Poltics, with the UK leaving the EU, extreme nationalism gaining ground in France, Denmark, and more European countries, extremists in the Labour Party gaining control over their constituency voted in MP's, the surprise result in Colombia etc, I wasn't exactly shocked by the result.
I have to say that whether or not Clinton is regarded by Republican voters as a "Criminal" and their fixation over her alleged carelessness of e-mails, I would have thought that it was just as, if not more, criminal to avoid paying taxes, not paying the large number of contractors, small businesses the money owed to them while flying around in a Trump emblazoned Jet and living the best of everything even after being declared bankrupt 4 times. Neither candidate is/was of merit enough to run for the Presidency but it does show the desperate straits that the USA finds itself in at the moment....but it is indicative of the state of the World that has existed for some years and is now in, hopefully, the peak of the unrest.
Me?, I'm ordering 4 years supply of Popcorn, extra cushions for my arm chair, so that I can watch the chaos, shennanigans, boasts, lies and broken promises, the clashes with different countries and cultures

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Hi Armandii,

What does POTAS mean please ?

pete · Nov 9, 2016

Anthony Rogers said: ↑
But Pete,

This was a form of proportional representation which is why it's wrong.

Please note I said " a form of "....
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Well you will need to explain to me that then, because in my book proportional representation means one person one vote and every vote counts equally.
Anything else is not that.

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